There was humor in his words and Seldon found himself suddenly realizing that a man might not look intelligent and yet might be intelligent just the same.
"Courage, Sire?"
"Why, of course. Don't they call you Raven Seldon?"
"I heard the expression, Sire, the other day for the first time."
"Apparently the reference is to your psychohistory, which seems to predict the Fall of the Empire."
"It points out the possibility only, Sire-"
"So that you are coupled with a mythic bird of ill omen. Except that I think you yourself are the bird of ill omen."
"I hope not, Sire."
"Come, come. The record is clear. Eto Demerzel, Cleon's old First Minister, was impressed with your work and look what happened-he was forced out of his position and into exile. The Emperor Cleon himself was impressed with your work and look what happened-he was assassinated. The military junta was impressed with your work and look what happened-they were swept away. Even the Joranumites, it is said, were impressed with your work and, behold, they were destroyed. And now, O Raven Seldon, you come to see me. What may I expect?"
"Why, nothing evil, Sire."
"I imagine not, because unlike all these others I have mentioned, I am not impressed with your work. Now tell me why you are here."
He listened carefully and without interruption while Seldon explained the importance of setting up a Project designed to prepare an encyclopedia that would preserve human learning if the worst happened.
"Yes yes," said Agis XIV finally, "so you are, indeed, convinced the Empire will fall."
"It is a strong possibility, Sire, and it would not be prudent to refuse to take that possibility into account. In a way, I wish to prevent it if I can-or ameliorate the effects if I can't."
"Raven Seldon if you continue to poke your nose into matters, I am convinced that the Empire will fall and that nothing can help it."
"Not so, Sire. I ask only permission to work."
"Oh, you have that, but I fail to see what it is you wish of me. Why have you told me all this about an encyclopedia?"
"Because I wish to work in the Galactic Library, Sire, or, more accurately, I wish others to work there with me."
"I assure you that I won't stand in your way."
"That is not enough, Sire. I want you to help."
"In what way, ex-First Minister?"
"With funding. The Library must have appropriations or it will close its doors to the public and evict me."
"Credits!'" A note of astonishment came into the Emperor's voice. "You came to me for credits?"
"Yes, Sire."
Agis XIV stood up in some agitation. Seldon stood up at once also, but Agis waved him down.
"Sit down. Don't treat me as an Emperor. I'm not an Emperor. I didn't want this job, but they made me take it. I was the nearest thing to the Imperial family and they jabbered at me that the Empire needed an Emperor. So they have me and a lot of good I am to them.
"Credits! You expect me to have credits! You talk about the Empire disintegrating. How do you suppose it disintegrates? Are you thinking of rebellion? Of civil war? Of disorders here and there?
"No. Think of credits. Do you realize that I cannot collect any taxes at all from half the provinces in the Empire? They're still part of the Empire-'Hail the Imperium!'-'All honor to the Emperor'-but they don't pay anything and I don't have the necessary force to collect it. And if I can't get the credits out of them, they are not really part of the Empire, are they?
"Credits! The Empire runs a chronic deficit of appalling proportions. There's nothing I can pay for. Do you think there is enough funding to maintain the Imperial Palace grounds? Just barely. I must cut corners. I must let the Palace decay. I must let the number of retainers die down by attrition.
"Professor Seldon. If you want credits, I have nothing. Where will I find appropriations for the Library? They should be grateful I manage to squeeze out something for them each year at all." As he finished, the Emperor held out his hands, palms up, as if to signify the emptiness of the Imperial coffers.
Hari Seldon was stunned. He said, "Nevertheless, Sire, even if you lack the credits, you still have the Imperial prestige. Can you not order the Library to allow me to keep my office and let my colleagues in to help me with our vital work?"
And now Agis XIV sat down again as though, once the subject was not credits, he was no longer in a state of agitation.
He said, "You realize that, by long tradition, the Galactic Library is independent of the Imperium, as far as its self-government is concerned. It sets up its rules and has done so since Agis VI, my namesake"-he smiled-"attempted to control the news functions of the Library. He failed and, if the great Agis VI failed, do you think I can succeed?"
"I'm not asking you to use force, Sire. Merely expressing a polite wish. Surely, when no vital function of the Library is involved, they will be pleased to honor the Emperor and oblige his wishes."
"Professor Seldon, how little you know of the Library. I have but to express a wish, however gently and tentatively, to make it certain that they will proceed, in dudgeon, to do the opposite. They are very sensitive to the slightest sign of Imperial control."
Seldon said, "Then what do I do?"
"Why, I'll tell you what. A thought occurs to me. I am a member of the public and I can visit the Galactic Library if I wish. It is located on the Palace grounds, so I won't be violating protocol if I visit it. Well, you come with me and we shall be ostentatiously friendly. I will not ask them for anything, but if they note us walking arm-in-arm, then perhaps some of the precious Board of theirs may feel more kindly toward you than otherwise. But that's all I can do."